Hah, thanks for the comment Ryan, and good for you on the refund. I still owe 39k can I get help with my loans? I cover this topic in detail on my page Student Loan Forgiveness Benefits and Taxable Income Laws, but here’s a basic example: If you get $10,000 in DeVry student loan debt forgiven, then you’ll have to add that $10,000 to your annual income on your IRS tax return, and you’ll need to pay a percentage of that $10,000 in taxes (whatever your tax bracket’s rate is). After seeing countless advertisements on TV and hearing them on the radio promising great opportunities for all of their graduates, I began to think that Devry would be an excellent fit for me and I could get into a great trade working with computers after finishing their program. It was a training school before it became a university, called DeForest Training School. If you choose to file a Borrower’s Defense Claim against DeVry, you’ll need to keep one very important point in mind: this is a legally binding process, so you need to tell the truth, because lying could lead to facing very harsh consequences. Via the Borrower’s Defense path though, you could qualify for a 100% discharge of all outstanding loan debt, plus refunds for anything you’ve already paid back. I did it yesterday. Did you read my entire post? Hopefully, by the time they get around to it, President Trump will have lost the next election and the new Democratic President will have put someone else in charge of DOE who is NOT waging an all out war on ordinary Americans. Your best bet is to contact whoever services your loans to find out what’s going on with this process, or hiring a local attorney to start sending out threatening letters to try and compel some activity on their end. Not everyone does. Of Education hoses us all! I am in the process of filing for BDAR and want to make sure all my ducks are in a row. Checking my mail like a madman, lol. But most importantly, you’ve got to clearly state that the school violated some State or Federal law, and that they did it to trick you into signing up for their programs. I keep asking for updates and the say it is still in review. I keep checking in to see if others have heard anything on their side? If you’re trying to call in the middle of the night, you might not get an answer! It’s actually a good thing that you didn’t finish, because if you had, you wouldn’t be eligible for the Closed School Loan Discharge Program. As of 3 days ago, I had received a refund check from DeVry for my monthly payment (which I had to figbt tooth and nail to get reduced every 6 months). I did verify the outstanding balance has been cleared and I owe nothing now. ), Hello again, Greg. I think you have a fantastic chance at getting approval on a Borrowers Defense Against Repayment, and I would absolutely hire an attorney to help you write and file the proper paperwork. These cases are dragged out for years and very expensive. I believe that your interest will only be capped at one year and after that it will be credited since “the slow process”. I would focus more on what you were told, promised, lied about, etc., in your BDAR application. I received 2 checks from DeVry for various amounts. Okay that was exciting…an error in my FAFSA had me at zero income so zero payment! I feel like if the FTC (a government entity) feels so strongly about the unethical business practices of Devry that we have grounds to file a borrow defense. Yes, you should use the Borrowers Defense Against Repayment Provision to challenge the validity of your loans. Hello, It’s a slam-dunk case, so at least you know the work you’ll put into crafting your application letter won’t be for naught. Hey Ryan, I don’t even know why the FTC wastes their time on this. It was essentially an introduction to programming and simply finishing the degree alone in no way made me eligible for jobs in the field. Thanks! 866 218 0754. Even though I faced the same promises, I fail to find any support or relief because I was a month off. If you do qualify, they will direct you to a government website to sign-up. I have good news for Everest College students: there’s a very good chance that you can qualify for a student loan discharge, and maybe even for a refund for any payments you’ve already made toward your outstanding federal student debt related to attending Everest. This is a free, Government-funded organization of attorneys who offer legal advice about student loans. If you were there at the right time, never completed your degree, and were still enrolled soon enough to the time the school closed, you’ll be approved. Forgiveness should be coming…. They lied about the program and many things about it. DeVry also falsely claimed that their graduates with Bachelor’s Degrees earned, on average, 15% higher incomes a year after graduating than graduates from other colleges and universities, and again, DeVry wasn’t able to provide any proof for this statement to the Department of Education either. Hopefully up to 20,000…. My stepdaughter attended Devry between 2012-2013, so of course did not finish. No way I could do that. I’m getting letters from about 2 to 3 different places and the dept keeps getting sold to different companies, so I don’t even know ware the money was borrowed from. I am so desperate of this and need you help in accomplishing this mission. In this new class-action lawsuit, DeVry is accused of false advertising since at least 2008 by claiming that 90% of DeVry graduates actively seeking employment were able to find jobs in their field of study within 6 months of graduation. Tim To find out that the average “payment” to former students is only $280 is absurd. Anyway…I could not get hired at a hospital or physician(you know..where one would normally get a position in the med field). Same here. Hi Tim, All you have to do is to fill out the form of Borrower’s Defense properly and submit it. Based on your story, and the fact that the school gave you incorrect information about the availability of courses at your campus, I think you’re eligible for BOTH Discharge programs, the Closed School Loan Discharge Program, AND the Borrower’s Defense Against Repayment Program. You did not get debt or loan forgiveness … It will significantly raise your chances of getting forgiveness in this round. Hours Mon-Fri | 7AM … After signing the paperwork to extend my loans, DeVry cancelled my class and told me it was a mistake that I didn’t need that class after all. I’d be going after that. Don’t give up! Any thoughts??? Tim, what validity is there for the student dept help services. The big recent money allocated is aimed at Closed School Discharges, but there could be tons also directed to BDAR applications. HELP!!! Can I apply for the Borrowers defense against repayment? I graduated and I haven’t found a job till today. If so, do I need to provide proof of Devrys actions and do I need to enlist legal help? I will continue to pay regardless. Don’t forgot about the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine, which lets you load up old version of any website! Or one step further, how do I find out what the exact crime actually is? and what documentation would i need, since it was about 7 years ago. Yes, there’s been news. What’s “90%success” refer to? Do you think we still have a chance at getting his loan forgiven through the Borrower Defense to Repayment program. It can be mailed or emailed. Are they still working? Such a crime. I would try contacting the Federal Student Aid Help Line again and see if they can give you an update…. Good luck, and please do come back to let us know how it goes, especially if you get approval! Unfortunately, things probably won’t turn around until President Trump is replaced with a Democratic party candidate who looks a little more favorably on individual American borrowers, rather than corporations. Unfortunately, I don’t think your parents will be able to use Borrower’s Defense the same way that you can. Thank you for taking the time to put all of this information here. Do you believe that I might qualified for any additional forgiveness programs? My loans were not through DeVry, they were through the Federal Government (over $80K worth). If it is determined that additional information is needed, we will reach out to request that information from you then. The income-based repayment plans have gotten a few name changes over the years. We started off with a privat loan through Sallie Mae and then consolidated and refinanced through the government student loan site Nelnet. It took 2 yrs( I sent out resumes every day for 2 yrs)…and a certification to land something within my field. I hadn’t seen much for activity on this so I wrote to my US Senator (Susan Collins) explaining the FTC case, the Loan Forgiveness route advised in the refund letter and so on. So there has been an update on the FTC page… Student Loan staff on phone were great, gently bursting my bubble. That sold me on choosing them. Bad credit, so getting a car is a nightmare. I called the Student loan helpline and a woman told me that I should just do their 240-month forgiveness plan for $995 even though I attended DeVry in 2011. You’ve got to make it VERY CLEAR that you would never have agreed to take out these loans had they not made those false promises, or set up false expectations. Thanks for the additional details! My question is, how do I know if these numbers are real/fake or the same numbers that people who fell under the lawsuit used to prove that what they did was illegal? Also sense I didn’t pay because I couldent afford to, they want me to pay in full. The Department of Education didn’t indicate whether the FTC settlement would help DeVry students with federal loans in their pleas for forgiveness. My loans were with Salie Mae but now are Dept of Ed loans. Still, it is not that challenging to achieve. Now to sit patiently and wait for a reply! Yeah, did you try to pursue a BDAR Discharge? Thank you for all of this information! If you don’t qualify for the benefit based on the eligibility requirements in the post, then you won’t be impacted by this program at all. My loans are in forbearence and I don’t want to pay Devry a dime b/c of their theft! I’ve had people say they haven’t heard back on their applications that were submitted over a year ago, but several months is probably the average length of time it’s taking for people to hear back. Some how I owe them $29,000 in student loans but I never even finished. Well no progress and wondering if anyone has had their DeVry Federal Student loans forgiven yet? Apply. From the DeVry web site from 2005 graduates (the same year I enrolled, so this is what I would have been shown by the recruiter): US combined statistics for “Graduates who actively pursued and obtained employment and those who were already employed in education-related careers within 180 days of graduation” is 85% employment for CIS degrees (my degree sector) and for my specific campus they show 100% employment rate (for my degree sector). Please let me know your recommendations!!! In the information with the refund check states”Devry ran advertisements that included deceptive claims on the likelihood of finding jobs in there field and earnings”. My daughter and I filed claims against DeVry in Nov. 2018. I should mention that as many pointed out on the FTC comment section. I graduated from DeVry in 2004, before I started with DeVry I was considering going to another trade school but was told by DeVry advisors how students that graduate from DeVry make more money and how DeVry students are in big demand by employers. If you can explain that clearly, and it’s compelling enough to the person from the Department of Education who reviews your case, then you’ll get approved for a discharge. I read through the entire post (more than once), but it almost sounds like you had to have the school make these offenses against you prior to 2015. I applied for the borrower defense in Nov 2016. It may be, and I would bet there are plenty of attorneys chomping at the bit to go after DeVry, but it’s going to be quite expensive because that’s the cost of a good attorney. Before that, $150 million was held in arbitration. There’s only ONE PLACE that you need to go (and should go) to file your claim against DeVry, and that’s the official U.S. Government website for the Borrower’s Defense Program, which is here: https://borrowerdischarge.ed.gov/s/?language=en_US. You’re going to have a much easier time if you can point at fraudulent claims and deceptive marketing practices. Here are four potential scenarios that could play out. You can reach them at 1-866-530-9946. I know I got duped, but I want to know the exact crime I can site when I actually go to submit this borrower defense application. Hi Tim. DeVry University. Good luck with your submission and please do come back to let me know how it goes! Apply if you believe your school has misled you or engaged in other misconduct. I attended DeVry under the years specified in the law suit. So I’m not qualify for that either. As I figured this was a mistake and checked my statement on their loan servicer (ECSI) web site, it showed that my balance was zero and no more payments due. Below, I’ll explain the FTC’s forgiveness settlement with DeVry, including who qualifies for the benefit, I’ll detail why DeVry is being forced to pay back former students, and I’ll explain what you need to do to ensure you receive your check (if you haven’t gotten one already…). If you feel like the school committed illegal activity against you, then submit a Borrower’s Defense to Repayment application against them. But I had the option of going to my local community college. The counselor also promised I would find success in these programs, even keeping in his office for 3 hours to convince me of this. DeVry University has been involved in numerous investigations, lawsuits, and settlements, mostly over inflated claims about the employment rates and salaries of its graduates, but also over criticized education quality and loan practices. First, thanks for creating and maintaining such a great resource that has helped so many people. I’d say the average costs I hear from people who use the service range between $350 – $800. If you’ve been struggling to get your diploma or academic transcripts from DeVry because of your failure to pay down outstanding debt related to their programs, then you’re in for some good news as well, because the school is being forced to issue diplomas and transcripts to all students and graduates, regardless of remaining debt. Last time I heard my claim was being processed. Paul, thanks for sharing these details with us! Thought I would share. Oh, wait – I don’t play the lottery. She told me that the majority of those that were not employed in their field in that time frame had decided to work in a different field or had decided it was not the right time for them to start working. Do NOT file a Borrower’s Defense Application with anyone else, because everyone else who wants to take down all this information from you may be a potential Student Loan Scammer, and you could be opening yourself up to a world of hurt via Identity Theft or other problems. No. Visit my page about Borrower’s Defense to Repayment Discharges. The FTC has offered to average $ 280- $ 300 per student. Bad plan to assume you had it made and stop paying… now you’re in trouble. Here is one quote, “The FTC’s settlement with DeVry includes $50.6 million to provide loan and debt forgiveness for students who currently owe money to DeVry. Thank you for this very detailed information that rivals the FTC blog page! Please tell me what you have done and what was your outcome. Great news! I’ve been following this thread regularly in hopes to hear how others have fared in their attempts. Manage My Applications. I would look at my Guide to the Borrower’s Defense to Repayment Program for details on how to fill out the application. If you want to verify, contact the Department of Education, then come back and let me know if I was right so I can make sure that I’m not sending out bad info. Thank you for your work on coming up with the strategy Roland! However I graduated in 2012 with a bachelor’s degree in computer information. I informed them that I had withdrawn from the school and there should be no loans that I am responsible for my week at Devry. I’m getting reports of people waiting 2+ years for a response now. I didn’t find out about the discrepancies until changes in their brochures were made and it was already too late for me. Do you know of a serch engine that can point me in the right direction. After I moved and showed up on my first day they told me that my new campus didn’t carry my major! The ICAEW Blogs & Forums will no longer be updated with new posts. Disgusting! I believe the 150,000,000 million is for those who have had their schools closed – like IIT and Corinthian. Could you share what exactly the letter says ? In your case, it sounds like you don’t really need any assistance, and you can take care of everyone on your own. -graduates making $40k+ a year at entry level in my field, Also, do you happen to know if money payed towards the DeVry private loan will be refunded? I owe $191,000 in student loans. Do not even exaggerate. I think you should be in a very good spot once all is said is done, with all or at least the vast majority of your debt entirely discharged, at no cost to yourself. Your story is compelling and I am certain that they’d be able to help you. And you file it against the school, not the servicing company. There are LOTS of other people who need help with their BDAR applications! I’m so worried that many people will end up getting hit by huge tax bills they weren’t anticipating, and can’t afford, so I’ve created an entirely new website specifically for helping people with tax-related problems, called Forget Tax Debt. Thanks so much for any help you may have to offer, you are very much appreciated! On Forget Tax Debt, I’ve already offered advice on a variety of issues, like Applying for IRS Tax Debt Forgiveness, Settling Your IRS Tax Debt, Evaluating Tax Resolution Companies, Applying for the IRS Fresh Start Program, and even Avoiding IRS Phone Scams, but I’ve got many more in the pipeline, so be sure to check it out! DeVry is currently listed as “discontinued operations” in Adtalem’s balance sheet. Gentlemen, let me thank you for all of your diligence andbleg work on the DeVry debacle.
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